thedeadparrot: (hiro)
thedeadparrot ([personal profile] thedeadparrot) wrote 2010-04-12 03:22 am (UTC)

Yeah, one of the biggest problems with this discussion is that the term "Mary Sue" means something different to a lot of different people.

And yeah, I think the intersectionality issues that come up with Mary Sues are quite complex. I think in a lot of ways, Mary Sues are all about empowering the author, and maybe that is something we want to celebrate, and maybe it isn't. I'm not trying to prescribe some sort fannish consensus on how we feel about such characters. I'm not saying that all the hate towards such characters is justified. I'm just pointing out that fantasies can still hurt people.

Hmm, I don't know how well such characters would be received since I, personally, haven't run into one. Maybe such Mary Sues would be empowering to less privileged people. Maybe such Mary Sues would still be alienating to them. It's hard to say, because the thing is, the defining characteristic of a Mary Sue for me is not how super awesome and shiny she is, but how much she shuts out the reader, and that's what brings about such intensely negative reactions. She's a Mary Sue because she doesn't empower anyone other than the author.

Post a comment in response:

Identity URL: 
Account name:
If you don't have an account you can create one now.
HTML doesn't work in the subject.


If you are unable to use this captcha for any reason, please contact us by email at

Notice: This account is set to log the IP addresses of everyone who comments.
Links will be displayed as unclickable URLs to help prevent spam.